4' x 8' CNC Router

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4' x 8' CNC Router

$3,800.00

$3,300.00

Product Code:
920 008
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Product Rating:
1 review

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Flimsy Contstruction

Problem

I want something that lasts and is rigid. Not a flimsy machine made out of wood or plastic. I want to be able to cut aluminum.

All Aluminum and Steel Construction
We don't compromise anywhere. All of the major frame components and pieces are either aluminum or steel. No plastic. No wood. No worries. Our machines are built to be rugged and handle whatever project you happen to throw at them.
TTP System Gives The Table Maximum Rigidity
Our Tension Table Pro (patent pending) system is designed to give you maximum rigidity of the frame. Many machines just use a few fasteners and maybe some brackets to connect the aluminum extrusions, but it's not as rigid as it could be. Our TTP system connects the frame by running 12 threaded rods through the frame and then tensioning them down. It is the most rigid connection system in it's class and is the best method for preventing the machine from twisting or bending. Take a look at the overview video below and see how it can benefit you.
Riser Block System Ties Everything Together
Part of the challenge in designing a machine like this is making sure that all connection points are both rigid and easy to assemble. When we decided to raise gantry up 7" to give you the clearance you need for parts, we had to come up with an easy way to attach this part to the table and was still rigid. The Riser Block system is our solution. The system does 4 key things:
  1. The blocks, placed in alternating orientation, have been designed to only deflect 0.0002" inches on 400 lbs of cutting force, which is more force that you should see when using the machine.
  2. The blocks slip into the T-Slots and can be easily attached without having to take anything apart or pre-insert screws
  3. The blocks tie into both 8020 extrusion pieces at the the table attachment point and provide a second set of connections to tie the table together.
  4. The blocks will automatically pull all of the table cross pieces square and level with each other, ensuring that your table top is square and level when you use it. The following overview video shows and highlights the benefits of this system:
We Believe In Maintenance, Self Service, And Building To Last
We hate throwing stuff away because one tiny piece breaks and you can't fix it yourself. We believe that products should be designed for maintainability and self service. You are making an investment that needs to last a number of years, and we have designed the machine to do just that. We always carry spare parts for all of our machines on hand so you never have to worry. We also provide all the plans for each part of the machine, so even in the highly unfortunate case that we aren't around 20 years (we certainly expect to still be going strong) from now when you need that spare part you can be assured that you can either buy it off the shelf or make it yourself.
Mostly Made In The USA
All of the machined components and 80/20 extrusion are made in the USA. All of the assembled components are assembled in the USA. The kit is designed and packaged in the USA. We do all these things in the USA because we want to deliver quality components made to tight tolerances that are built to last.
Confusing Instructions

Problem

I am new to CNC and don't know if I can assemble it and use it. Most instructions are just confusing. And how will I design and build my projects the "CNC Way"?

Assembly Videos
We provide you with a videos included in your kit on how to build the machine. Every step is fully laid out in it's own separate bag and ready for you to build. The video details every step you need to get your machine up and running. Take a look at the assembly video now before you buy. If you can follow the video, the machine will be a breeze to put together.
Exploded Drawings and Full CAD plans
If you're a visual guy and prefer to build off of a set of plans, we have the several formats available. The full SolidWorks plan set is available for those that have Solidworks 2013 or greater. If you don't have Solidworks, we offer an EASM format, which you can access by downloading a free viewer program. This program allows your to move around the model, measure distances, hide certain parts, and can be a great aid when assembling the machine. If you prefer a paper set of plans, we have a full set of exploded PDFs that you can download to get what you need. Just click on the Downloads tab and you should see links for all of these plans.
Parts are broken into steps that are fully labeled and quickly accessed
It's convenient for us to put all of one type of screw in a single bag, regardless of whether or not that screw is used in 10 different steps. That creates a lot of hassle for you though because you constantly need to search for the bolts you need. So, we don't do that anymore. Instead, we bag each step separately and include only what you need in that step. We want this build to be enjoyable, not frustrating.
CNC Basics articles and videos on how to run the machine
Often the biggest question is, after the machine is together and running, how do I use it to cut out the parts I need. We have a collection of articles on CNC Basics. They cover a wide range of basic topics like holding your work down, selecting bits and feedrates, and how to zero the machine. These articles are supplemented with videos that illustrate the concepts on our machines. Don't see something you have a question about? Shoot us an email and we'll get the question answer and put an article up about it.
Featured Projects show you how to do a project the CNC Way
Featured Projects are a way to learn how to design a project for the CNC. We give away plans to build cool projects that you can take and run on your machine. We give instructions on the design process and tips for designing, cutting, and finished the project that you can take and use on your own projects. It's an excellent introduction into the world of CNC design. Check out the Featured Projects. We are adding more each month.
CNC Basics articles show you how to design projects to get the most out of your machine
CNC Basics Articles on Design Videos on Designing projects - The CNC Basics series covered more than just the basic machine setup and operation. We have a series dedicated to showing you different design techniques you can do with your next CNC project.
Too Many Manual Machines

Problem

Multiple manual machines take up a ton space and workflow and require customized jigs for anything non-standard.

Machines you can replace with a CNC
Here's just a sample list of common machines and processes that can be transitioned to the CNC router:
  1. Table Saw
    1. Cutting sheets into final dimension pieces
    2. Cutting rabbits and dados
  2. Scroll Saw
    1. Cutting customs shapes and inside pockets.
    2. Cutting intricate detailing
  3. Router Table
    1. Cutting rabbits and dados
    2. Cutting end sections like Box Joints, Finger Joints, and Dovetails
    3. End work on pieces like roundovers, chamfers, and raised paneling
    4. Eliminate creating and using templates for custom shapes
  4. Drill Press
    1. Drilling any sized hole
    2. Pocketing large holes that would normally require hole saws
    3. Creating mortises
    4. Countersinking and counterboring
Redefine you Workflows

Imagine that your building cabinets for a customer that requested dovetails on the drawers, adjustable shelf pins on the open cabinets and a custom carving on each raised panel.

Your workflow without a CNC might look something like this:

  • Cut all pieces to final length on the tablesaw and miter saw.
  • Use your pocket hole jig to make the pocket holes.
  • use your shelf pin jig to make the shelf pins.
  • Use a router to profile all edges and create the raised panel doors.
  • Use a templating jig to route the custom carving on each face frame.
  • Use a custom router jig to carve out the hinge pockets on the door.
  • use a dovetail jig to dovetail the drawer sides.
  • Finally we get around to assembly of the cabinet.

Note that the above assumes all the jigs are on hand and you don't have to make anything.

our Workflow with a CNC might look like this:

  • Load plywood sheet onto CNC. CNC cuts out set of drawer frames and a set of cabinet sides. While CNC is cutting, cut out the face frame and raised panel frame pieces on the miter saw.
  • When CNC is done, set up drawer sides on CNC to be dovetailed. CNC dovetails drawer slides while you are free to continue working on the cutting, pocket holes, and assembly for the face frame.
  • Load wood on CNC for raised panels and drawer frames. CNC cuts out the profiles, does the edge work, does the carving on the panel, and drills the hardware holes. While this is running, you are free to work on assembly of the other parts.

Our CNC routers can drastically simplify your workflow. Not only that, but things that were not possible before like crazy shapes and 3D carvings become design staples that give your projects flare and style, in large part because they are so easy to include.

No more custom jigs on projects
Want to cut out a cutting board in the shape of Texas? That's as easy as producing a square piece. Custom jigs you used to make for things like arcs, lettering, and pockets are no longer needed. Just clamp the material down to table and let the machine do the work. You no longer need that shelf pin jig or the dovetail jig. All of that can now be done on the CNC Router. Even your custom tablesaw sleds for angle cutting, cross cutting, and specialty cuts like coves are not longer needed. The CNC router should make custom jigs a thing of the past.
Property Value
X Axis Drive System Rack and Pinion
X Axis Travel 52 inches
Y Axis Drive System Rack and Pinion
Y Axis (Gantry) Travel 98 inches
Z Axis Drive System Leadscrew
Z Axis (Vertical) Travel 10 inches
Accuracy 0.002-0.005 inches per linear foot out of the box
Repeatability 0.002-0.003 inches out of the box
Rapids - NEMA 23 1600 IPM recommended, 2100 IPM max
Rapids - NEMA 34 1600 IPM recommended, 2100 IPM max

(1 customer review)

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Custom 5 X 10 Table With Nema 34 Setup VFD/Spindle
Submitted on By

Well this review is based off of my experience with FLA. I actually thought these machines/company were the right purchase for the type of things I make. Well, you have know idea what the past 6 weeks has been like with Nathan Lowrie. Let's start off by me stating that I drove from South Carolina to Myerstown, Pennsylvania. I was thinking I was gonna get majority of the parts for this machine. NOPE!!!!!!!! Not even close. I drove all that way just really to pick up some extrusions. I was told I would have my Nema 34 panel within 1 week once he returned from vacation.. Liar. He couldn't build the panel. I found this out 4 weeks later. This is what he sold me. I threatened to come back if I didn't have my panel the very next day, so then he sent me pictures of the current state of the panel and made it appear in picture placements of components were good. Liar. When I did get the panel. I assemble the way it was in the picture and holes didn't line up... This guy took me for a ride and Mr. Nate I will be sure people know how you do business. This will not be the review that gets you.. There will be a video review of this 50 SQ. FT paper weight I have. You talked me in to all these options that YOU don't even know how to get working. I'll list below;

C48 EStop: He doesn't know how to make it work.. When I text him his didn't even work. LOL... Hilarious and this guys has a business..
Spindle: Very Very bad noise interference. This guy ignored me for days on top days. I got it fixed but don't think I will tell him how I did fix it.
Missing parts that I had to request.

I cannot even remember all the problems.

My Biggest Problem with Nate was the control panel. This guy told me lies on top of lies. Now, to his defense he refunded me the money for the panel but that was the least he could do. I have been a very loyal customer to this guy. I have purchased a total of 3 machines and upgraded one of them. If he will do a customer like me this way. You better look out.... Go ahead and buy you a saddle because you are fixing to go on a donkey ride.

JUST FOR THE RECORD IF YOU WANT A TABLE OF THIS SIZE BUILD IT YOURSELF. THE ONLY HARD PART IS THE PANEL.

FINE LINE AUTOMATION NOTES:

We are leaving this review here. It is our policy to keep all reviews regardless of whether or not they are good or bad. We reserve the right to comment on reviews though.

First and foremost, this review is not for the 4'x8' kit OR any of the accessories that go with it. The table that was order was COMPLETELY CUSTOM; custom 5'x10' kit that needed to be designed and manufactured, the electronics were a custom panel that was still in the prototype stages fully developed or manufactured, and the spindle/VFD was new product in beta. At the time of purchase, it was communicated to the buyer that because it was completely custom machine it would take a little bit to manufacturer.

When the customer came to pick the kit up, everything was picked up with the exception of the electronics kit and the motor cabling. He picked up the full kit (hardware, extrusions, rails, gear racks, the whole thing), spindle, VFD, and motors. This was after he moved up the deadline a week. There was a problem with 2 sets of screws and the gear racks that was discovered at he got the kit home. Replacements were shipped out immediately the next day.

I realize that we had some issues with product delivery and proper functioning of the products, but when you are dealing with completely custom machines this sometimes happens. We have provided so far over 20 hours of support to get this machine running. We could not predict that certain issues would crop up with the machine. In the end, we let him keep the control panel AND the spindle/vfd while completely refunding the price he paid for these items. We took a major hit on this and were just as frustrated as he was.

Maybe we didn't communicate the expectations for a completely custom system properly, but in the end we feel put in time to get it running and made it right with the customer with a refund of the 3 parts that wasn't working.


Customer
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Unable to contact FLA to obtain missing parts for the machine I purchased.
Tried calling, leaving messages, email, forum messages. Nothing. Very upsetting.


Write your own review
  • Description
    Flimsy Contstruction

    Problem

    I want something that lasts and is rigid. Not a flimsy machine made out of wood or plastic. I want to be able to cut aluminum.

    All Aluminum and Steel Construction
    We don't compromise anywhere. All of the major frame components and pieces are either aluminum or steel. No plastic. No wood. No worries. Our machines are built to be rugged and handle whatever project you happen to throw at them.
    TTP System Gives The Table Maximum Rigidity
    Our Tension Table Pro (patent pending) system is designed to give you maximum rigidity of the frame. Many machines just use a few fasteners and maybe some brackets to connect the aluminum extrusions, but it's not as rigid as it could be. Our TTP system connects the frame by running 12 threaded rods through the frame and then tensioning them down. It is the most rigid connection system in it's class and is the best method for preventing the machine from twisting or bending. Take a look at the overview video below and see how it can benefit you.
    Riser Block System Ties Everything Together
    Part of the challenge in designing a machine like this is making sure that all connection points are both rigid and easy to assemble. When we decided to raise gantry up 7" to give you the clearance you need for parts, we had to come up with an easy way to attach this part to the table and was still rigid. The Riser Block system is our solution. The system does 4 key things:
    1. The blocks, placed in alternating orientation, have been designed to only deflect 0.0002" inches on 400 lbs of cutting force, which is more force that you should see when using the machine.
    2. The blocks slip into the T-Slots and can be easily attached without having to take anything apart or pre-insert screws
    3. The blocks tie into both 8020 extrusion pieces at the the table attachment point and provide a second set of connections to tie the table together.
    4. The blocks will automatically pull all of the table cross pieces square and level with each other, ensuring that your table top is square and level when you use it. The following overview video shows and highlights the benefits of this system:
    We Believe In Maintenance, Self Service, And Building To Last
    We hate throwing stuff away because one tiny piece breaks and you can't fix it yourself. We believe that products should be designed for maintainability and self service. You are making an investment that needs to last a number of years, and we have designed the machine to do just that. We always carry spare parts for all of our machines on hand so you never have to worry. We also provide all the plans for each part of the machine, so even in the highly unfortunate case that we aren't around 20 years (we certainly expect to still be going strong) from now when you need that spare part you can be assured that you can either buy it off the shelf or make it yourself.
    Mostly Made In The USA
    All of the machined components and 80/20 extrusion are made in the USA. All of the assembled components are assembled in the USA. The kit is designed and packaged in the USA. We do all these things in the USA because we want to deliver quality components made to tight tolerances that are built to last.
    Confusing Instructions

    Problem

    I am new to CNC and don't know if I can assemble it and use it. Most instructions are just confusing. And how will I design and build my projects the "CNC Way"?

    Assembly Videos
    We provide you with a videos included in your kit on how to build the machine. Every step is fully laid out in it's own separate bag and ready for you to build. The video details every step you need to get your machine up and running. Take a look at the assembly video now before you buy. If you can follow the video, the machine will be a breeze to put together.
    Exploded Drawings and Full CAD plans
    If you're a visual guy and prefer to build off of a set of plans, we have the several formats available. The full SolidWorks plan set is available for those that have Solidworks 2013 or greater. If you don't have Solidworks, we offer an EASM format, which you can access by downloading a free viewer program. This program allows your to move around the model, measure distances, hide certain parts, and can be a great aid when assembling the machine. If you prefer a paper set of plans, we have a full set of exploded PDFs that you can download to get what you need. Just click on the Downloads tab and you should see links for all of these plans.
    Parts are broken into steps that are fully labeled and quickly accessed
    It's convenient for us to put all of one type of screw in a single bag, regardless of whether or not that screw is used in 10 different steps. That creates a lot of hassle for you though because you constantly need to search for the bolts you need. So, we don't do that anymore. Instead, we bag each step separately and include only what you need in that step. We want this build to be enjoyable, not frustrating.
    CNC Basics articles and videos on how to run the machine
    Often the biggest question is, after the machine is together and running, how do I use it to cut out the parts I need. We have a collection of articles on CNC Basics. They cover a wide range of basic topics like holding your work down, selecting bits and feedrates, and how to zero the machine. These articles are supplemented with videos that illustrate the concepts on our machines. Don't see something you have a question about? Shoot us an email and we'll get the question answer and put an article up about it.
    Featured Projects show you how to do a project the CNC Way
    Featured Projects are a way to learn how to design a project for the CNC. We give away plans to build cool projects that you can take and run on your machine. We give instructions on the design process and tips for designing, cutting, and finished the project that you can take and use on your own projects. It's an excellent introduction into the world of CNC design. Check out the Featured Projects. We are adding more each month.
    CNC Basics articles show you how to design projects to get the most out of your machine
    CNC Basics Articles on Design Videos on Designing projects - The CNC Basics series covered more than just the basic machine setup and operation. We have a series dedicated to showing you different design techniques you can do with your next CNC project.
    Too Many Manual Machines

    Problem

    Multiple manual machines take up a ton space and workflow and require customized jigs for anything non-standard.

    Machines you can replace with a CNC
    Here's just a sample list of common machines and processes that can be transitioned to the CNC router:
    1. Table Saw
      1. Cutting sheets into final dimension pieces
      2. Cutting rabbits and dados
    2. Scroll Saw
      1. Cutting customs shapes and inside pockets.
      2. Cutting intricate detailing
    3. Router Table
      1. Cutting rabbits and dados
      2. Cutting end sections like Box Joints, Finger Joints, and Dovetails
      3. End work on pieces like roundovers, chamfers, and raised paneling
      4. Eliminate creating and using templates for custom shapes
    4. Drill Press
      1. Drilling any sized hole
      2. Pocketing large holes that would normally require hole saws
      3. Creating mortises
      4. Countersinking and counterboring
    Redefine you Workflows

    Imagine that your building cabinets for a customer that requested dovetails on the drawers, adjustable shelf pins on the open cabinets and a custom carving on each raised panel.

    Your workflow without a CNC might look something like this:

    • Cut all pieces to final length on the tablesaw and miter saw.
    • Use your pocket hole jig to make the pocket holes.
    • use your shelf pin jig to make the shelf pins.
    • Use a router to profile all edges and create the raised panel doors.
    • Use a templating jig to route the custom carving on each face frame.
    • Use a custom router jig to carve out the hinge pockets on the door.
    • use a dovetail jig to dovetail the drawer sides.
    • Finally we get around to assembly of the cabinet.

    Note that the above assumes all the jigs are on hand and you don't have to make anything.

    our Workflow with a CNC might look like this:

    • Load plywood sheet onto CNC. CNC cuts out set of drawer frames and a set of cabinet sides. While CNC is cutting, cut out the face frame and raised panel frame pieces on the miter saw.
    • When CNC is done, set up drawer sides on CNC to be dovetailed. CNC dovetails drawer slides while you are free to continue working on the cutting, pocket holes, and assembly for the face frame.
    • Load wood on CNC for raised panels and drawer frames. CNC cuts out the profiles, does the edge work, does the carving on the panel, and drills the hardware holes. While this is running, you are free to work on assembly of the other parts.

    Our CNC routers can drastically simplify your workflow. Not only that, but things that were not possible before like crazy shapes and 3D carvings become design staples that give your projects flare and style, in large part because they are so easy to include.

    No more custom jigs on projects
    Want to cut out a cutting board in the shape of Texas? That's as easy as producing a square piece. Custom jigs you used to make for things like arcs, lettering, and pockets are no longer needed. Just clamp the material down to table and let the machine do the work. You no longer need that shelf pin jig or the dovetail jig. All of that can now be done on the CNC Router. Even your custom tablesaw sleds for angle cutting, cross cutting, and specialty cuts like coves are not longer needed. The CNC router should make custom jigs a thing of the past.
  • Details
    Property Value
    X Axis Drive System Rack and Pinion
    X Axis Travel 52 inches
    Y Axis Drive System Rack and Pinion
    Y Axis (Gantry) Travel 98 inches
    Z Axis Drive System Leadscrew
    Z Axis (Vertical) Travel 10 inches
    Accuracy 0.002-0.005 inches per linear foot out of the box
    Repeatability 0.002-0.003 inches out of the box
    Rapids - NEMA 23 1600 IPM recommended, 2100 IPM max
    Rapids - NEMA 34 1600 IPM recommended, 2100 IPM max
  • Reviews

    (1 customer review)

    Write your own review

    Custom 5 X 10 Table With Nema 34 Setup VFD/Spindle
    Submitted on By

    Well this review is based off of my experience with FLA. I actually thought these machines/company were the right purchase for the type of things I make. Well, you have know idea what the past 6 weeks has been like with Nathan Lowrie. Let's start off by me stating that I drove from South Carolina to Myerstown, Pennsylvania. I was thinking I was gonna get majority of the parts for this machine. NOPE!!!!!!!! Not even close. I drove all that way just really to pick up some extrusions. I was told I would have my Nema 34 panel within 1 week once he returned from vacation.. Liar. He couldn't build the panel. I found this out 4 weeks later. This is what he sold me. I threatened to come back if I didn't have my panel the very next day, so then he sent me pictures of the current state of the panel and made it appear in picture placements of components were good. Liar. When I did get the panel. I assemble the way it was in the picture and holes didn't line up... This guy took me for a ride and Mr. Nate I will be sure people know how you do business. This will not be the review that gets you.. There will be a video review of this 50 SQ. FT paper weight I have. You talked me in to all these options that YOU don't even know how to get working. I'll list below;

    C48 EStop: He doesn't know how to make it work.. When I text him his didn't even work. LOL... Hilarious and this guys has a business..
    Spindle: Very Very bad noise interference. This guy ignored me for days on top days. I got it fixed but don't think I will tell him how I did fix it.
    Missing parts that I had to request.

    I cannot even remember all the problems.

    My Biggest Problem with Nate was the control panel. This guy told me lies on top of lies. Now, to his defense he refunded me the money for the panel but that was the least he could do. I have been a very loyal customer to this guy. I have purchased a total of 3 machines and upgraded one of them. If he will do a customer like me this way. You better look out.... Go ahead and buy you a saddle because you are fixing to go on a donkey ride.

    JUST FOR THE RECORD IF YOU WANT A TABLE OF THIS SIZE BUILD IT YOURSELF. THE ONLY HARD PART IS THE PANEL.

    FINE LINE AUTOMATION NOTES:

    We are leaving this review here. It is our policy to keep all reviews regardless of whether or not they are good or bad. We reserve the right to comment on reviews though.

    First and foremost, this review is not for the 4'x8' kit OR any of the accessories that go with it. The table that was order was COMPLETELY CUSTOM; custom 5'x10' kit that needed to be designed and manufactured, the electronics were a custom panel that was still in the prototype stages fully developed or manufactured, and the spindle/VFD was new product in beta. At the time of purchase, it was communicated to the buyer that because it was completely custom machine it would take a little bit to manufacturer.

    When the customer came to pick the kit up, everything was picked up with the exception of the electronics kit and the motor cabling. He picked up the full kit (hardware, extrusions, rails, gear racks, the whole thing), spindle, VFD, and motors. This was after he moved up the deadline a week. There was a problem with 2 sets of screws and the gear racks that was discovered at he got the kit home. Replacements were shipped out immediately the next day.

    I realize that we had some issues with product delivery and proper functioning of the products, but when you are dealing with completely custom machines this sometimes happens. We have provided so far over 20 hours of support to get this machine running. We could not predict that certain issues would crop up with the machine. In the end, we let him keep the control panel AND the spindle/vfd while completely refunding the price he paid for these items. We took a major hit on this and were just as frustrated as he was.

    Maybe we didn't communicate the expectations for a completely custom system properly, but in the end we feel put in time to get it running and made it right with the customer with a refund of the 3 parts that wasn't working.


    Customer
    Submitted on By

    Unable to contact FLA to obtain missing parts for the machine I purchased.
    Tried calling, leaving messages, email, forum messages. Nothing. Very upsetting.


    Write your own review